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 Post subject: Bally/Williams Tables Will No Longer Be Avalable on TPA
 Post Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 1:01 pm 
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The link to the following article says that all the Bally/Williams tables (60 of their 90+ tables) on The Pinball Arcade (TPA) are no longer going to be available after June 30th.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/05/ ... e-you-can/

I don't have TPA but I'm thinking about buying it so I can have them before they go away. I have seen some videos of their tables and they don't seem all that much different than FP. Am I wrong?

According to the article, all of these tables will no longer be available:

The Addams Family
Attack from Mars
Banzai Run
Black Knight
Black Knight 2000
Black Rose
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Cactus Canyon
Centaur
The Champion Pub
Creature from the Black Lagoon
Cyclone
Diner
Doctor Who
Dr. Dude & HIs Excellent Ray
Earthshaker
Eight Ball Deluxe
Elvira and the Party Monsters
F-14 Tomcat
Fathom
Fireball
Firepower
Firepower II
Fish Tales
Fun House
The Getaway: High Speed 2
Gorgar
High Speed
Hurricane
Indianapolis 500
Jack Bot
Judge Dredd
Junk Yard
The Machine: Bride of Pin•Bot
Medieval Madness
Monster Bash
No Fear: Dangerous Sports
No Good Gofers
Paragon
The Party Zone
PIN•BOT
Red and Ted's Road Show
Safe Cracker
Scared Stiff
Sorcerer
Space Shuttle
Spanish Eyes
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Swords Of Fury
Tales of the Arabian Nights
Taxi
Terminator 2: Judgment Day
Theatre of Magic
Twilight Zone
White Water
Whirlwind
WHO Dunnit
Wild Card
World Champion Soccer
Xenon

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 Post subject: Re: Bally/Williams Tables Will No Longer Be Avalable on TPA
 Post Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 1:38 pm 
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I also read that.

The behavior of Bally/Williams is a shame because they know that TPA's company is going to close.
Also, I don't know how a company can base its incomes on timed license, unbelievable!

What a mess and a disaster :(

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 Post subject: Re: Bally/Williams Tables Will No Longer Be Avalable on TPA
 Post Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 8:31 pm 
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TPA is a polished commercial product that you pay for.
If it goes out of business you may lose tables as it is through steam for PC I think


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 Post subject: Re: Bally/Williams Tables Will No Longer Be Avalable on TPA
 Post Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 11:00 pm 
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Gimli wrote:
TPA is a polished commercial product that you pay for.
If it goes out of business you may lose tables as it is through steam for PC I think


How did you get Monster Bash?

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 Post subject: Re: Bally/Williams Tables Will No Longer Be Avalable on TPA
 Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 12:02 am 
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I have phone app and
Bought the table from season one

I also have CFTBL


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 Post subject: Re: Bally/Williams Tables Will No Longer Be Avalable on TPA
 Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 12:25 am 
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I installed TPA for free on my PC and got Tales of the Arabian Nights for free. To be honest, the playfield looked pretty grainy and I couldn't find any controls that improved it. I'd rather play Smoke's version. I think I will pass on buying any more tables.

I did read that they will continue to support those that bought the tables that they will no longer sell.

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 Post subject: Re: Bally/Williams Tables Will No Longer Be Avalable on TPA
 Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 8:42 am 
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The phone app is great for learning the Rules
both playing a game and having the interactive rules tutorial alongside are great to have while trying to figure out code for FP :D

TPA is great. It of course doesn't allow 3d or VR and we can't tweak it the way we like it.

I think I read that everyone had to repurchase all their tables after one of the updates to steam?
(For PC TPA users)
But it runs smooth and the physics are quite good.

Rav has enabled head tracking for TPA , so that's cool.

And of course FP has a greater table selection and original tables


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 Post subject: Re: Bally/Williams Tables Will No Longer Be Avalable on TPA
 Post Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 11:06 am 
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I did finally figure out how to improve the graphics on TPA on my PC. You have to go to the following folder:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\PinballArcade\

then run "PBAConfig.exe" in the folder so you can increase the resolution.

There is also a "PinballArcade11.exe" that runs TPA with DirectX11 which is a bit better. Even so, I'm not crazy about how the camera follows the ball.

George


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 Post subject: Re: Bally/Williams Tables Will No Longer Be Avalable on TPA
 Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 2:00 pm 
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TheNalex wrote:
...because they know that TPA's company is going to close.

Do you have more details on TPA's potential closure? I'm wondering how it could affect the usage of the tables after closure.

Gimili wrote:
If it goes out of business you may lose tables as it is through steam for PC I think

Gimli is this an actual possibility? I thought when you buy through Steam you own the game, but I've only used Steam for a 3 or 4 games in my lifetime.

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 Post subject: Re: Bally/Williams Tables Will No Longer Be Avalable on TPA
 Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:24 pm 
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http://pinballarcadefans.com/archive/in ... 10927.html
They had this issue in the past, it makes you wonder about steam purchases


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