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 Post subject: Re: NEW MiniPlayfields in BAM
 Post Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:58 am 
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Ravarcade said (15/08/16) >>
TRANSPARENT CUSTOM BALL
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So, you can create custom ball with special textures or colors. Why not to make it transparent (or invisible)?
Here is code used to create "very special" ball:
"picture with lots of stuff on it"
Now: Why this?
For example you can create mini-playfield with DMD and display something above ball (miownkhan idea).
you can create mini-playfield with "ring" and create ball-like-saturn-with-rings.
.... you can create something more complicated....
... you can create BB-8 ball (my "bumper" floating over ball is poor imitation of BB-8).


Oh yes!! and it's just amazing!
with the help of Gimli, we created a very custom ball in 2 parts and ... well.. we do not care the point is not really there.
I wanted to add effects to this "ball" with seqences of images - Gimli proposed me several solutions:
- with a hologram - it works well, the problem is that the holograms are appears even behind an object that should hide them ...
- by calling the images one by one (* I have not managed to reproduce his example, but i have just understood why by rereading the complete thread - we need to have the images already on an object if i understand well, if transparency works, it will be the best solution ... and if my mistake is there ...)

on my side i tried other solutions, like putting a simple "overlay" and i have a problem ... the "veryspecialball" (with a rendering completely or almost invisible) that creates BAM, makes the overlay (and the images displayed) completely invisible (i've seen just the parts that exceed) - i can see the shape of my overlay under some conditions (playing with the reflection of playfield) but most of the time it does not appear ... and i do not understand why.
someone already tried this? did you find a solution to work around the problem? Or maybe I'm not doing things the right way?

sorry for the inconvenience and have a good day! ;)

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 Post subject: Re: NEW MiniPlayfields in BAM
 Post Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:34 pm 
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I think bam allows image swapping on toys.. but your ball toy is spherical so we need to have swappable spherical image maps to give clarity and prevent distortion...


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 Post subject: Re: NEW MiniPlayfields in BAM
 Post Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:44 pm 
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Gimli wrote:
I think bam allows image swapping on toys.. but your ball toy is spherical so we need to have swappable spherical image maps to give clarity and prevent distortion...

yes, unlike the overlay, it works very well. it's good i got it :)

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 Post subject: Re: NEW MiniPlayfields in BAM
 Post Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:22 pm 
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drakko91 wrote:

yes, unlike the overlay, it works very well. it's good i got it :)


Very cool, I look forward to seeing the results when I get back....just got robbed in Barcelona....


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 Post subject: Re: NEW MiniPlayfields in BAM
 Post Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:42 am 
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Gimli wrote:
Very cool, I look forward to seeing the results when I get back.


if i managed to understand, it's thanks to your help on your many examples. after there are things to know - like:
1 / do not change the images on the fly, BAM must load them, after importing images you have to reboot BAM
2 / the transparency of the "veryspecialball" must be 0.
3 / the toy, need to have a notch of transparency - no more, not less.
once that is understood, it's much easier ...

Gimli wrote:
....just got robbed in Barcelona....

ps/ :evil: ... I hope this is not important things

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 Post subject: Re: NEW MiniPlayfields in BAM
 Post Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:22 am 
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Nothing major a backpack with some clothing and sunglasses...we were having a nice tapa and wine at an outdoor patio with friends but were distracted by various people trying to get us to buy roses and trinkets...


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 Post subject: Re: NEW MiniPlayfields in BAM
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:10 am 
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drakko91 wrote:
it's good i got it :)

Awesome job !!
I am excited to see more of your amazing innovations as this table progresses !


drakko91 wrote:
after there are things to know....


Keep track of all your discoveries along the way

They will make for a great tutorial for those like yourself that wish to explore BAMs potential !


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 Post subject: Re: NEW MiniPlayfields in BAM
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:26 pm 
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Welcome back Gimli!

I hope you had a great vacation.

George


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 Post subject: Re: NEW MiniPlayfields in BAM
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Thx George !
Yep had a great time


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 Post subject: Re: NEW MiniPlayfields in BAM
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:57 am 
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Hi Gimli,

I'm from Barcelona, so next time maybe we can have some beers ;-)

Stephane


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