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 Post subject: Re: Why Future Pinball gets a bad rap
 Post Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:16 pm 
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I also think aiming is a big problem in FP. Best of luck and thanks for trying!


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 Post subject: Re: Why Future Pinball gets a bad rap
 Post Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:50 pm 
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I 100% agree with the issues brought up in this thread. The ball leaving the flipper in FP always feels like I've flipped too late and as pointed out in the first post, aiming for the center is far more difficult than it needs to be.

But is this something where one size flipper change will fix all? If you take your MM flipper alterations to a different game, do they still feel closer or just as off as the original?


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 Post subject: Re: Why Future Pinball gets a bad rap
 Post Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:23 am 
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Pro Pinball Timeshock has awsome psysics. Alot better than Pinball Arcade for my mobile-Samsung if you ask me. Seams very good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQMOwKIn ... re=related


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 Post subject: Re: Why Future Pinball gets a bad rap
 Post Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 12:45 pm 
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MRZ999 wrote:
Pro Pinball Timeshock has awsome psysics. Alot better than Pinball Arcade for my mobile-Samsung if you ask me. Seams very good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQMOwKIn ... re=related

Pro Pinball tables are the only pinball I play since my PC broke down - Only have an PIII for the moment.
Timeshock, Fantastic Journey & Big race USA was way before it,s time, Made in 97-99 and they still hold up to pinball tables that comes out today :!:

Still I miss FP! but atleast I finally have work again......new PC soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Why Future Pinball gets a bad rap
 Post Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:59 pm 
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I think I will try to get them to work on my PC. I played them long time ago and I remember I never used nudging. So maybe I can play better this time. Nice to see someone else still playing them! =)

You cant complain on the graphic resolution or anything in these games. I hope they make more tables. Would be scary with modern teqnology to see what they will come up with.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Future Pinball gets a bad rap
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:29 pm 
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I admire and thank you guys for starting a productive, and needed thread.

My opinion about FP has been what it lacks in true physic representation, it more than makes up for in originality and diversity. What I mean is look at the explosions and effects that have been created by Slamt1lt. The ability not only to recreate a table, but make it better and more fun.

I have always felt that anyone who complains about VP being better than FP was a bit of a cork sniffer. They are both free, and I enjoy both.

Of course if the physics and flippers can be tweaked properly for better realism it's a win/win situation for all. Good luck guys!

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 Post subject: Re: Why Future Pinball gets a bad rap
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:16 pm 
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I agree with everything said here. For example if you compare Terminator 2 to Party Zone, it's obvious that Terminator 2 has the more realistic physics of the two. I did that test on both games and T2 was very accurate at getting shots using the method of the three flipper points, whereas Pz was questionable even to the point that the ball sometimes bounces!

I have a suggestion what if all the physics of the tables that have been made and are being made, are put into a thread on this forum, and then using information from the real machines the correct physics setting can be determined and posted in the thread for people to edit. Maybe future table makers could also be encouraged to set their physics to a certain setting, and then Future Pinball wouldn't have such a bad rap :)


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 Post subject: Re: Why Future Pinball gets a bad rap
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:44 pm 
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As I said previously, makers don't always have the time, ability or want to completely emulate the physics of the real-world tables. My suggestion would be, instead of trying to order table builds to adhere to these new suggestions, those that are concerned about it should just applaud those that do and mod those that don't, themselves.

It's tough to assume that everyone has the same motivation and dedication to 100% authenticity.

Suggestions are okay, but we must not vilify those that don't follow them.

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 Post subject: Re: Why Future Pinball gets a bad rap
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:02 pm 
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I didn't suggest that people should be ordered to do anything. The thread idea is for people that want real physics, someone on this forum could make a thread of the correct settings to make the physics of certain tables more playable.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Future Pinball gets a bad rap
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:15 pm 
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It was more a reply to this:

"Maybe future table makers could also be encouraged to set their physics to a certain setting, and then Future Pinball wouldn't have such a bad rap."

Just trying to keep this thread from taking a wrong turn.

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